Best filler to alter a mold?

I am still stuck with this somewhat functional mold that I need to find a way to alter in order to really use. After much thought and playing with different things I have come back around to using filler to remove a few contours which are trapping the final part. Final dimensions are not important, so I don’t care that I am altering the shape in a very backwards way. Going back to the plug and working forwards is also not an option in any way. SO:

What is a good fill material I can add to PE resin and sand to a smooth surface? In places it will have to be 1/2" thick. I would like it to be robust enough to at least get a few pulls from.

Thanks!

Bondo. Or… Use evercoat. It is essentially pe resin with lightweight filler. You can cut bondo with pe and still use the paste hardener. More over if you get a nice wipe… a squirt of acetone will let you rub it nice and smooth when it starts kicking.

ive pulled about 10 parts off a mould i got bogged up with bondo here, and the bondo is still good, so youll get a few pulls easy

You don’t want to use [Bondo](javascript:void(0);). Its way too porous. You want to find a repair putty that is either Poly or Vinyl Ester. Also, make sure you see if you can match the characteristics of them. Heat distortion, elongation, etc. What ever putty you use you want to make sure it will expand and contract with the mold, and not at a different rate.

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Ive used evercoat brand filler which is essentially just like bondo. It’s pe and also porous. Cutting with resin helps make it more liquid… Even pourable.

For epoxy I use the same resin as mold and add chopped fiber… Microballons and or flock.

bondo is porous. but wax well and fair bit of PVA and it will release ok.

If you are using PVA with bondo, then bondo should work alright as a temporairy fix. But if you are goign from wax to layup, don’t use bondo. You might get away with it, but there will come a time that it fails at the wrong time.

First of all thank you all for your responses!

I thought bondo was always a big no-no?

Dallas are you saying use a autobody filler to rough it out, add a resin filler on top and sand/polish?

Any reason I shouldn’t use West System Fairing compound? (510 I think) It is the only locally available option.

Evercoat is an auto body filler but it’s also used as a fill and fair in aviation as well. The biggest problem is the stuff shrinks. It also doesn’t like to be cooked. Over 250f should be avoided. But it’s pretty strong stuff in actuality. If you have polyester tooling evercoat will work fine. You could also mix resin evercoat and chopped fiber for a strong filler.

I recommend applying a new tooling surface coat after you modify the tool. For instance prep the tool for a new coat of duratech and polish it out. I’ve tried to blend but an imprint is almost always left on the parts. And usually I’m chasing an edge when wet sanding the surface.

If you wanted to go west systems and do a more proffesional and IMO better route use west 407 filler with chopped fiber and high density 404 brush coat using your existing resin.

407 is basically microballoons and 404 is a hard filler. Sand and prime n polish.

I’d feel safe that it would hold up quite well.

Just found your site today, but been doing composite work professionally and for fun for 20 years, everything from Cigarette boats, to world record Hydrostream blueprinting, and if i may add my 2 cents on the subject;

If a surface is cleaned well, with a clean rag, and scuffed with with 36 grit, and scratched with a wire brush, even the cheap old Bondo brand polyester and talc filler patches most anything. if you don’t want it to “pop” at any point, once hardened, paint it, or better yet, scuff it with 80 grit, and brush a layer of epoxy over it, to seal the talc. Overall, we like to think cheap stuff does not work, which is why people buy expensive cleaners when borax and vinegar will clean most anything. I can’t tell you how many times i have used Bondo has a quick and simple fix on something, and had it last 10 years without a problem, rarely do I have it break loose if prepped and sealed well. A frined of mine was an engineer for an outboard manufacturer, and told me they used to use bondo as an adhesive even on parts that were exhaust “stuffers” right next to the exhaust ports. He swore the stuff would not smell and kept adhering after multiple cycles. Obviously, not recommended. Another friend is a world record holder in 13 foot racing power boats, with 70 horsepower evinrudes, doing 70 mph (on a v-bottom boat), and he also happens to be a physics professor, and he, also, blueprints his hulls with bondo. Is is technically inferior, yes, but is it strong enough? absolutely, for most applications within reason.