Fast Forward Full Carbon Project

After 2 years I have finished the carbon fiber parts of my private custom motorcycle project "FAST FORWARD". Based on a modified Martek frame I designed and crafted all the parts by myself. The bike is driven by a Suzuki Bandit 1200 engine which is modified with a fuel injection system, 1240ccm Bigbore kit, precisely balanced crankshaft and piston rods, Yoshimura camshaft, cylinder head tuning and a 6-speed gearbox. The whole body work consists of carbon fiber. The upper section is based on a lightweight monocoque which can be removed completely in 10 min. by simply unscrewing 4 bolts. The total - ready to ride - weight of the bike is 178kg. This was my first project using the MTI hose. Just created a simple websitewith a couple more images.







Awsome dude!! And if you ask me I would rather preffer matte look than lacquer. It looks more badass than blink blink shine… Just my opinion :wink:
How did you done the labeling of your company name? It also looks very nice!!

Congrats!

Can you tell something more about that? Did you mean using MTI-hose or something else?

Yes, I used the MTI-hose the first time with this project. The label is just a self-adhesive lettering covered with a clear coat.

So, is it realy so much easier with MTI-hose as they say? Can you please describe some advanteges and disadvantages?

Well you can see the results possible with MTI in a YouTube video. The uncutted video shows the demoulding of a carbon fiber part with a glossy finish right out of the mould.

There is also an [ame=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7OuvO1jZf4&feature=share&list=UUsPC12VbgXA3VP_quU7pgjQ”]animation video[/ame] which explains the advantages of the MTI hose in comparison with Vacuum infusion Process using the usual spiral hose.

Nevertheless I can tell you about my own experiences. First of all, the advantages of the MTI hose depend on which process you are currently using and the performance level you want to achieve. My own composite experience began with wet lay-up 10 years ago and went over to vacuum bagging and finally to vacuum infusion. But the sharp designed lines of the Fast Forward project forced me to review my previous production methods since they were characterized through more or less voids within the laminate and the surface. That causes a tremendous effort with sanding, filling the pinholes, priming etc… Especially with vaccuum bagging or vacuum infusion these voids are caused by entrapped air bubbles which have the chance to expand to maximum size in the vacuum athmospere. Pinholes arises since the resin can escape the mould cavity. Above all there is the risk of getting dryspots when the resin decides to flow through the spiral wrap into the catch pot instead of saturating the rest of the laminate. Particularly with complex designed moulds these risks are always evident. Through my internet researches I came across MTI and gave it a try.

What are the advantages of MTI:

The process is based on a hose which consists of a high-tech textile compound fabric supported by an internal spiral hose. The membrane is permeable to air but impermeable to resin which causes a kind of self-regulating effect which in turn influences two things:

  1. Resin can not escape the mould cavity and is forced to saturate the reinforcement fabric completely. The advantages are:

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[li]Minimized risk of getting dry spots[/li][li]Pin-hole free finish which reduces overall costs by avoiding post treatment (sanding, primer, paint particularly if you use an In-Mould coating)[/li][li]No need for complex calculations of resin flow[/li][li]Flexible positioning of the resin feed lines[/li][li]No more wasted resin[/li][li]The resin consumption can be calculated ecactly[/li][li]One can place the MTI hose on top of the laminate to defuse critical points[/li][li]One can adjust the amount of introduced resin to achieve optimum fiber volume fraction[/li][/ul]
2) It leads to an automatically adjusted system pressure. That means, when the resin has once covered the membrane completely it shuts the door to the vacuum pump. That mechanism leads to ambient pressure in the system which in turn leads to a collapse of possibly entrapped airbubbles. To keep a certain pressure within the system one can place the resin source below the mould cavity. One yard height differences results in 150mbar or 4,4 "HG which corresponds to the fiber opening forces. The advantage is a minimized impact from air bubbles which leads to a consistent high quality of the structural components which in turn results in higher resistance to dynamic loading.
The integrated spiral hose provides an effective airflow channel for maximum evacuation performance. This is evident even under difficult conditions including hulls and wind turbine blades and other extremely large or complex designed moulds. Also, the MTI hose is extremely easy to work with since it is flexible and pliable, enabling it to be routed along the profile of the most complex of parts.

What then are the disadvantages?

The material costs are higher in comparison with spiral hose and it is important to follow certain rules to get the best possible results (which actually is the same with other processes). One is that your vacuum system has to be airtight.

To summarize my experience. The MTI hose enables me to produce lightweight cosmetic cabon fiber parts with tremendously reduced overall costs.

Hope this summary answers your questions.

Thank you for that detailed answer. Working with vacuum infusion process so I’ll probably try it on my next project.

Amazing Project and Results!!! Well done for your Commitment!!!

That is beautiful!

Is the bike in the USA now? (the first picture is Germany, I presume.)

Beautiful! well done!

No, it is still in Germany, I planned to ship it to Orlando just to display it at the Composites trade show. But that would be about 2.500€ one way. :sad2:

I also just watched the infusion of the Ferrari seat on youtube. what resin did you use for infusion?

The infusion of the seat was me. I used HP Textiles E300RI resin. You can find all used materials in the end of the video.

thanks for the reply, I saw the listing at the end of the video but reading “HP textiles E300RI” I didn’t catch “resin” at the end of it.

Was a post cure completed in mold or after room temp curing removed and post cured freestanding?

It was cured at RT and tempered outside the mould.

After the infusion process, done with the infusion resin HP textiles 300RI, the different carbon parts were fixed and tempered within the assembled moulds to prevent deformation. The pictures show the simultaneous infusion process of 5 carbon parts and the monocoque and tank cover moulds with inserted carbon parts within the temperbox.

Thanks for the reply. Nice molds! So using the MTI hose you do not seal the bag to the mold flanges correct? it appears that you have the molds sealed in an envelope bag, is that correct?

Also what do you use for sealing the multipiece mold flanges together while you infuse?

Could you post more pics of the molds I would be really interested in seeing how they all come together. Do you use and inflatable bladder on the internal cavities of the monocoque?

What is acting as the gas tank? Is it the carbon or is that just a dummy?

Sorry about all the questions but it looks like you have done a very nice job of solving some of the problems that I am in the process of working out .

DDcompound, was the risk of deformation not a concern doing it out of the mold or was it done with very small temperature rise over a long time period?

Sealing - When i started with MTI i had no practice in regard of preparing a 100% airtight vac system. Above all i was faced with different kind of issues to be solved, e.g. improper vac films or sealant tape, untight/splitted moulds, etc. To make sure the system was airtight i sealed the bag to the mould flange and additionally i put them into an enveloppe bag. With splitted moulds you should do so anyway. Multipiece moulds i seal with a slight silicon film between the flanges plus tacky tape but this is not sufficient for an 100% airtight system. Additionally to the bag sealed to the mould you have to use an envelope bag.

Moulds - I didn`t use an inflatable bladder on the internal cavities of the monocoque. When I had produced each of the 10 parts of the monocoque separately i put them into the assembled multipiece mould and fixed them through different windows which had to be closed afterwards (air intake, e-box, opening under the seat)

Gas tank - At first i wanted to produce a carbon fiber gas tank but to be on the safe side it became an aluminium tank which is just covered by a carbon dummy.