Easy-Lease?

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#1

I’ve been heavily researching composites and what it takes to work with them for the last month, and every time I’ve come across someone talking about Easy-Lease from Easy Composites, as seen here:

http://www.easycomposites.co.uk/products/release-agents/easylease-mould-cleaner.aspx

they do nothing but rage about how well it works. I wouldn’t mind ordering a whole bunch of it, except that it costs my whole life to get shipped to the US. So I guess I have two questions:

If you live in the US, have you ever used this and was it worth it?

For you UK folks that have used this, is it really a unique magical release agent, or is it something more common that they just named?

Thanks.

#2

Bump for this feeling the wrath of the spam filter for 5 days.

#3

It’s Marbocote 227CEE
Well, Im pretty sure it is. If not, its at least a Marbocote product.

#4

I buy it 2 times, and I will buy it again. Before it, I used wax…this is very very better. I use it with poly, vinilester and epoxy resin, hand lay up and resin infusion

#5

If it’s a Marbocote product then it should work great. I have used their release before and had the same results as Frekote.

#6

If you’re in the US, you can just pick up frekote 770-nc, it behaves the same way (ie excellent release everytime)

#7

Thanks everybody! I was wondering why no one had responded to this, so I just came to check on it. I guess I need to change my options for notifications.

Yes, this is basically everyone-on-the-internet’s reaction that has gone from wax to this stuff. I’m a big fan of very very better, so it’s looking like I’ll be starting out with Frekote 770-NC or Marbocote 227CEE.

“Let’s make this as difficult as possible and go out of our way to increase the likelihood of failure.” - not me

Maybe there’s already a thread on this, but now I want to know if either of those is superior to the other or not.

It sounds like they’re both excellent products though, and I’d probably be safe with either.

#8

You are in the US, so Frekote will be easier to source. Marbocote 227CEE doesnt strictly require a sealer though, and its pretty affordable in comparison. I think they change the names of Marbocote products for the American market though, so you’ll have to investigate data sheets to see which one is 227CEE.

#9

Neither show up in Google Shopping, but I’m getting a few results in the regular web search. I saw something saying it was a semi-permanent release agent. Does that mean I can coat the mould, pull a part, and then there still be a lot left on the mould so that I wouldn’t have to use so much the second time, or… dare I say… get a successful release without adding any more at all?

#10

These are the American distributors:
http://www.marboamerica.com/index.htm

Give them a ring, they might give you a sample. Marbocote UK was kind enough to send me a whole litre to sample.

Yea, that’s the theory. Although for the first couple of pulls I do a touch up coat. After that, I stop releasing until the part doesn’t just fall out of the mould. The stuff is so slippery, sometimes it’ll release as soon as you pop the bag, you can hear it. Very very better indeed.

#11

Ah, thanks. I just emailed the UK headquarters about 2 minutes ago though haha. Ah well, maybe they’ll see I’m making an effort to give them my money and will tell the US guys to hook it up.

And wow, that sounds way very very better. Sounds like it’ll go a really long way per volume.

#12

Apply using a brush/spreader I suppose?

#13

It’s too thin to use a brush. I use lint free tissue, the type body shops use. Comes in a massive roll and it’s cheap. Just a tiny piece, maybe 100mm wide, folded a couple of times to give it some absorption. Saturated, it will do half a square metre. (very very better)²

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLEANING-TISSUE-LINT-FREE-20cm-x-145m-/320589951605

#14

Oh, nice. I’ll have to review the video I originally saw that used it, and then I’ll probably have some more questions after that. I’ll also look into the Frekote alternative some more too. If they’re essentially the same, price will be the deciding factor. I just want my first few composite experiences to go as smoothly as possible so I’m not discouraged. So unless the best product is unreasonably more expensive than #2, I want to go with the best.

#15

If you struggle to get some marbocote release then try and get Chemlease as another option… It is more expensive but applies faster (less coats needed) and seems to have more solids in there so it seems to last longer between pulls too… I have used both and like Marbocote as it works and a tin will last me ages anyway…

easy-lease is like Carbon Cactus said just a re-bottled Marbocote product.

#16

A tin? Are you talking about a mould made of tin?

#17

Tin is british for can.

#18

…Oh. Well speak English! Jeez! :wink:

#19

and a bonnet is English for hood… :slight_smile:

Anyhow, also in the USA there are plenty of semi perm release agents.

Frekote
Zyvax (just bought by Chemtrend)
Chemtrend
Ferrokote

and many more.

Most rely of a sealer (at Zyvax called the “Insurance policy”) and a release. When used well you have very little problems. The problems you might run into are prerelease and beading of gelcoats. Both can be solved by using a hard release wax over the release agent. Many times the semi perm release wars a bit after 1 or 2 products, and then you do not need the wax anymore.

#20

Yeah, I’m a pretty big Lotus fan, so I know “bonnet,” “boot,” and probably a few others. “Tin” got me though.

When you say the problems I may run into are prerelease, do you mean that most of the problems will likely be before I get to the release stage (pre-release), or is there a product or step referred to as prerelease?