Composite Planes

I was watching the evening news and heard that more aircraft companies are turning to more composites to save weight and fuel. Apparently aluminum weighs too much:o

Might be a good time to look into it more, or if you have insightful articles or news to add to this maybe post it for others to see.

ive seen a lot of kit planes made out composite materials nowadays. Four Winds Aircraft is one of them. It’s an all composite airplane. Fiberglass for the body and carbon for the spars. Here’s the link

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/kitspages/fourWinds.php

they are now owned by VX Aerospace.

The company that i’ll be working for is making the new boeing 787. It’s made out carbon fiber. Im pretty excited. Anybody here lives in north charleston, SC area? i might need some advice on the area.

I’m quite sure whatever company you’re thinking of is only making some 787 parts. I’ve trained quite a few techs to make 787 parts.

Aircraft companies have been using advanced composites for a long time now.

Much of my work involves consulting and training for the manufacture of commercial and military planes and helicopters.

TET, yes, that’s a given. I wasnt implying that they were making all the parts for the 787.

I want your shop and autoclave TET :smiley: That would be funny, a shop that nice making cosmetic motorcycle parts.

Yeah, and making a year’s worth of parts in one run!!!

First of all sorry for my poor English, I’m a a french guy working in Germany and I have been working on the A350 programm.

Since the B787 program composites’range in the civil aircrafts have been increased, there are a lot of manufacturing processes in use :

  • winding for the barrel
  • tape laying for the wings and tailplanes
  • pultrusion could be used for the profiles such as stringers and floorbeams
  • RTM for complex structural parts

anyway here in Europe there is a big know how transfer from EU military aircrafts/world wide racing cars/US civil aircrafts to the EU civil aircrafts (I mean Airbus naturally).

You will find much more infos (in English) under the forum airliners.net . And I would be very pleased to help.

For your info I’m actually working for a little starting composite company innovating in thermoplastic pultrusion.

Welcome aboard!

You guys deal with BAE often? Thats about the extent of my “air liner” type work. Thanks for the link.

Welcome to the forum Viking :slight_smile:

I remember watching a PBS special about Boeing making the first prototype F22 Raptors. Part of it was about how the main wing was being made… carbon fiber then they rolled it into a huge oven… I don’t think it was an autoclave but i could be wrong. It took a lot of carbon cloth to lay up the entire wing in once top piece. They made two prototype wings this way, both failed the inspection ( ultrasonic air bubble test). the guy in charge was so frustrated he looked like he was ready to quit. I think Boeing ended up changing the design, because the prototype does not look the same as what the military flies now (F22). They also showed a company making the tail rudder and wing section for a 777. I think they just filmed it because it was being made in the same factory as that huge F22 wing.

I was just looking at some pics of the 787 man… that wing looks like it wouldn’t provide enough lift, but apparently it does.

BAE has no contact (and shares) anymore with Airbus, but machinery and materials companies like (Flow, Cinncinati, Toray. Toho Tenax…) are all working both on the B787 and on the A350.

Spirit Aerosystems is going to deliver the center fuselage section (the 15th section) of the future A350, and it would not be a surprise if Spirit acquires the German Airbus site in Nordenham ot he German EADS site in Augsburg, EADS Augsburg is already supplying the pressure Bulkhead of the B787.