first timer: sculpt a plug?

What a abortion… :oops:

I sure hope that red car has a mother, cause only a mother could love something that UGLY :shock:

Yes, they’re brittle. They’re not too soft. They hold up pretty well as long as you’re careful. It’s great cause they are really easy to work with.

:shock: :? :oops: :lol: :wink:

Much like the NSX /turned Ferrari F40isk …its AMAZING how much time/talent/materials/effort someone has gone too ,and in the end made it much slower ! :lol: lol.

Can you just IMAGINE that persons salery were they to work at the “BIG THREE” in R&D ??

But who are we (I guess) to judge their dreams,right ?lol.

I give an “A” for effort to anyone ,if they can actually finish ANYTHING !

                               ..................Vinny

There’s not much use for people that hand sculpt the body parts. We have computers and 5 axis mills that will do that. I doubt anyone can sand to 0.003" tolerances. (Human hair ranges from 0.003" to 0.005") Plus the design would be evaluated, ran through wind tunnels, and constantly refined. Without actually running the design through CFD and verified with a wind tunnel tests, you can seriously upset the balance of the car. You could end up with problems like the early Audi TT’s being wrapped around guard rails at 120+ mph on the Autobahn.

As a mechanical engineer, when I see all the stuff people are making in the aftermarket business, all I can say is, “Why?” While putting lots of ducts and stuff might look cool, unless you have a need for more cooling, the ducts create drag which makes the car less effecient and therefore slower.

I’m not sure if those remarks are 'Informative of Infuriating" ? lol.

Read this with “to each his own” in mind…I believe its human nature for some to be driven to “CREATE” in what ever fashion that drives them. Some have more background and passion than others to do so in a useable way,hence the "END PRODUCT/RESULTS .

But for someone with the education of a “Mechanical Engineer”,you might be careful in pointing out your true feelings of those people who have spent a lifetime being 3D Sculpters and Artists who can certainly make ANYTHING with their hands from their" minds eye" and perhaps you can make SOME things with a keyboard and someone elses investment in equipment ! There is a HUGE difference between “SKILLS AND TALENT” in my humble opinion.If you can not combine the two, your left to the direction of others ideas and schedules which is prison to sculpters/artists at times.

NO doubt the era of fashioning up a 3-D object with the newer Programs/computers is superior for an item of mass production …but the creativity that lays in the human touch will always be the breadwinner over just the programmer.

My “RANT” has gone on long enough…Just remember,when you say something like “NO USE” ,…its going to be a sad day when we jave no one to do "hands-on " ANYTHING !

                                            Vinny

:!: 8)

It’s one of the situations where you either embrace technology or be left behind. There is very little that you cannot create using present day 3-D modeling programs, CNC machining, and rapid prototyping. There’s plenty that you can’t do by hand. The last company I work for, we used to make all our patterns by hand. Just try making two parallel and flat sides at a certain dimension apart. It’s not easy. Yet in the end, all out patterns were developed using Solidworks and the patterns were made by the machninist either using rapid prototyping or on a 4 axis mill. Even though we were a small company dealing with low volume, one big reason was time. We can have a mold made off the pattern in a matter of days instead of weeks.

Even in the composite industry, the trend is away from “hands on.” Automated two placement and filament winding are slowly replacing hand lay-up. A machine is more precise in ply orientation, less time, less labor, and less prone to human errors.

Ypu DO speak the truth here. I do not deny…sad in itself that the old world Artisian is slowly being “cleansed” out of the industry/plural by means of automation/robotics.

Looks like we’ll live to see the day that the Blue collar worker will die of starvation/ellimination .

God knows thats the reason I sold my first “labor Intensive” bussines,(after 23 years) was because the “work pool” integrity had all but dissapeared. I wasn’t willing to lower standards to fit the bad work ethics available. I had rather step out…and I did.

Its a shame really…people are being sysematically/ parentally being trainedraised to become selfish and “its all about me” mentality right before our eyes.

I’m humbled as much as angry,I guess.
:oops: :evil:

But…I am sick of watching our American bidding going more and more overseas just because we can’t touch the final price. Obviously we need to step up and join the “good race” to stay ahead before Unions drown us in our fat ! :cry:

Enough of my thread jacking…my apologies.

                                                    ....................Vinny 8)

This sort of reminds me of an episode of Star Trek TNG. Data was doing paintings but he can only assimiliate the styles of other artists. Every stroke was perfect. But to be human, we can’t be perfect. It’s the imperfections that give character and style.

The blue collar work force will die only if they are unwilling to learn new skills. Just look at machinists. The German machinist trade school begins by having the apprentice learn to file a perfect cube. This will take them about a month to achieve the perfect cube where the sides are dead flat, parallel, and perpendicular to each other. Will they ever need to use that skill, not likely. Manual mills and lathes still have a place in machining. But for a machinist to survive today, they will need to learn to operate CNC machines. The engineer designs the part, but it’s the machinist that makes it. While engineers can come up with the G code for the CNC machines, that job is now the machinists job to do. Of course someone still has to babysit the machines.

It’s not like the jobs will disappear, just redefined.

Its that RE-definition thats going to remove the colorful passionate characters that for centuries have been the motivators for SO many to involved in the trades.

No longer will ones awareness be honed in that the “J.O.B.” will continue to require less and less Talent and rely more and more on programmed skills .
Don’t get me wrong,I’m not arguing…just sighing in the direction of the future.Our sons/daughters will have to READ in history books about those people (like Greeks/Romans sculpters/archetects) that actually USED their HANDS !!lol.

:shock: …Vinny 8)

It’s not as simple as you think. For instance, I would not have a computer programmer write the G code for a CNC machine. While there are software that will automate many things, you still want a machinist to verify the code. If you don’t have an understanding of how things are made, you can make a very costly mistake such as not moving the tool head far out enough to clear the part when moving to a different location. If you are lucky, you only break the tool bit. But if you are not, the repair bill for the machine will make you want to fire the person. CNC machines also operate at much higher speeds than you would with conventional machines. It’s quite impressive and quite destructive.

Plus a hands on machinist often do things differently. The machinist that we sent parts to had a clever way to thread large holes. The standard method is to use a tap. But instead of having taps for every thread size in existance, he taps the larger holes the same way you would cut inside threads with a lathe. Only with a CNC vertical mill can you do that.