"05" Mustang GT Engine Dressup

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#21

I answered the last post with my phone and messed it all up.
What I meant to say is the higher end customers, I have, do request all carbon parts.
They want parts that look good and are as light as I can make them and price is normally not an issue.

I make the part according to how much the customer wants to pay, to a certain degree of course.

I apologize but I can’t post pics of the tube molds or go into detail about the GT logo as per my NDA I signed with the customer. They paid for a lot of R&D.

#22

You could waterjet cut the laminate to get the letters or design cut out… do the same to another laminated piece and insert it… laminate the backside to hold it all together… then clear coat the final part.

Waterjet runs around $60-75 an hour at machine shops.

#23

Water jets can cut steel aswell can’t they?

#24

Understood.:wink:

#25

or just use a plain old cnc router. we use it to cut holes on carbon for gauge panels…

#26

I was going to guess a punch stamp. DUnno how perfectly accurate the fibers will be after a water jet.

LASER on the other hand…

#27

Werksberg actually posted a link to free blue prints for making a CNC router … just build it and add a personal computer to run the program/s.

I’m not sure how a water jet would affect the laminate but it seems it should cut it with no edge frey… if the laminate is thuroughly wetted out with resin.

#28

concerning the water jet cutting of composites, we have seen that it seems to cut good through thin laminates (1/8"-1/4" IIRC), if the laminates are thicker or have a tough core material embedded, the water jet starts to change directions and looks for the path of least resistance, which would most likely be between laminate/core or between the individual plies…but I guess thin laminates are the most common thing anyway, and tiles for instance aren’t used as core material very often either :wink:

#29

Carbon: Are you ordering the 4x4 twill locally or online?

#30

how could i find this,ive tried searching but to no avail.

Thanks
G

#31

i dont know about that specific router, but since my best friend is a router builder i know its a process that requires really high precision machining, and knowledge. just the cost alone for a small table is about 3.000 $. that gets sold for 10.000 … so, i’d say its not a home project…

#32

JRL,
I get it by the roll online.
USComposites has some by the yard and they are off of Georgia Ave near Southern Blvd.

#33

I know mark at US composites pretty well. I believe they get all of there stuff from BGF. Was hoping for feedback on the BGF cloth before I buy any.

If I had the money I would buy it by the roll straight from Porcher via air mail.

#34

I would like some of that 4x4 twill also by the yard. I just had to check uscomposites website… it’s 8.3oz, 3K carbon. Does anyone make a 5 or 6oz 4x4 twill? Anyone got the lowdown on the best price and where at?

Thanks:)

#35

Ive never seen 4x4 in anything other than 8 oz sizes

#36

4x4 is thin for its weight, and flatter than 2x2. 8oz is just fine.

#37

Ohh ok. Thanks TET

#38

I don’t know how carbon7 got the logo in there but an easy way to do fine detail like that is.

1.) lightly tac the fabric to some wax paper or sticker backing paper
2.) get a vinyl logo place it over the secured carbon fabric. Making sure the orientation is correct that the logo doesn’t end up backwards in the part.
3.) use an x-acto knife and trace the logo
4.) place the carbon logo where you need it onto a gel coated mold, if done right the gel coat will hold the fibers neatly while the backing is removed.

There’s a post in here somewhere where i beleive fpg? something used it to put flames into a design.

upon looking closely it looks like that particular gt logo could of been done with a straight edge and a ruler to get the nice straight lines.

#39

A pizza cutter sytle blade might be a better option to an xacto knife. Less chance of hang ups.

#40

i believe it’s easier to have two separate cured items, cut the logo off in a cnc router, and the same from the other laminate, stick it in (using something on the back to hold it, and clear coat on top 2-3 times, sand it and clear coat once again.